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	<title>Comments on: We offered, you refused</title>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant! I think you said what all of us were thinking so clearly! That was an awesome way to put it! Nice going Jeff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant! I think you said what all of us were thinking so clearly! That was an awesome way to put it! Nice going Jeff!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Greene</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, the House Republicans had a plan that was not well covered in the media. Using the same economic model that President Obama used, the Republican plan would have created 2x as many jobs at half the cost. 

Just because you were not aware of the Republican plan does not mean they were not trying to be constructive; they didn&#039;t agree with the spending bill where most of the authorized spending doesn&#039;t even occur until 2011. 

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) determined the large spending plan that passed will be a net negative to the economy. The CBO stated that only a small portion of this huge spending bill could be considered stimulating for jobs. 

Most of the spending increases were for the majority&#039;s preferred social programs that have a tangential relationship to an immediate stimulus to the economy and should have been considered in the usual appropriation process in Congress rather than for an emergency stimulus plan. - Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, the House Republicans had a plan that was not well covered in the media. Using the same economic model that President Obama used, the Republican plan would have created 2x as many jobs at half the cost. </p>
<p>Just because you were not aware of the Republican plan does not mean they were not trying to be constructive; they didn’t agree with the spending bill where most of the authorized spending doesn’t even occur until 2011. </p>
<p>The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) determined the large spending plan that passed will be a net negative to the economy. The CBO stated that only a small portion of this huge spending bill could be considered stimulating for jobs. </p>
<p>Most of the spending increases were for the majority’s preferred social programs that have a tangential relationship to an immediate stimulus to the economy and should have been considered in the usual appropriation process in Congress rather than for an emergency stimulus plan. — Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gurn, Jack, sorry y&#039;all feel that way. I stand by what I said, though. Obama said, &quot;It&#039;s the responsibility of the majority to be inclusive, but it&#039;s the responsibility of the minority to be constructive.&quot; As long as the Republicans don&#039;t have anything to say but &quot;no no no&quot;, they&#039;re going to be marginalized and ignored. Come up with some constructive ideas, and we&#039;ll listen. We&#039;ve already tried &quot;get government out of the way and let private industry do everything for profit&quot; and we know that doesn&#039;t work. Come up with something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gurn, Jack, sorry y’all feel that way. I stand by what I said, though. Obama said, “It’s the responsibility of the majority to be inclusive, but it’s the responsibility of the minority to be constructive.” As long as the Republicans don’t have anything to say but “no no no”, they’re going to be marginalized and ignored. Come up with some constructive ideas, and we’ll listen. We’ve already tried “get government out of the way and let private industry do everything for profit” and we know that doesn’t work. Come up with something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Greene</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, your post is needlessly immature. I occasionally check your site for info on mobile computing issues; I have other sites I use for political insights.

When exactly did Nancy Pelosi meet with the Republican leadership to compromise on any issues with the bailout of $700B+ ?

When the Democrats were in the minority, I recall there was constant criticism of Republican policies. Partisan politics is the push and pull of contrasting ideas. I recall that much of the liberal criticism lacked basic civility, i.e., Bush=Liar; Bush=Hitler; General BetrayUs

-Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, your post is needlessly immature. I occasionally check your site for info on mobile computing issues; I have other sites I use for political insights.</p>
<p>When exactly did Nancy Pelosi meet with the Republican leadership to compromise on any issues with the bailout of $700B+ ?</p>
<p>When the Democrats were in the minority, I recall there was constant criticism of Republican policies. Partisan politics is the push and pull of contrasting ideas. I recall that much of the liberal criticism lacked basic civility, i.e., Bush=Liar; Bush=Hitler; General BetrayUs</p>
<p>–Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Gurn Blanston</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurn Blanston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I was following a link in search of a GTD implementation method for WinMobile 6 and instead I&#039;m shot in the face with childish partisan vitriol. You know Jeff, there are many decaffeinated brands that taste just as good as the real thing.    -GB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I was following a link in search of a GTD implementation method for WinMobile 6 and instead I’m shot in the face with childish partisan vitriol. You know Jeff, there are many decaffeinated brands that taste just as good as the real thing.    –GB</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here. Although I&#039;m a bit worried about this first attempt at fixing the economy I&#039;m well aware it&#039;s a &quot;we need to do something right now, it ain&#039;t great but it&#039;s a start&quot; move. Don&#039;t get me started on tickle down bullshitenomics. I work for a company that is so small it would never effect them but they still believe whole heartedly in it. It makes me sick as they lay people off to hire engineers. Engineers which are being managed into uselessness.

OK, no ranting from me. Well said Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here. Although I’m a bit worried about this first attempt at fixing the economy I’m well aware it’s a “we need to do something right now, it ain’t great but it’s a start” move. Don’t get me started on tickle down bullshitenomics. I work for a company that is so small it would never effect them but they still believe whole heartedly in it. It makes me sick as they lay people off to hire engineers. Engineers which are being managed into uselessness.</p>
<p>OK, no ranting from me. Well said Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2009/02/we-offered-you-refused/comment-page-1/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s f*ckin right, you tell &#039;em Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s f*ckin right, you tell ‘em Jeff.</p>
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